Any good tips for scanning Golf Tags on the course?

Posted over 8 years ago by Bobby R.

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Bobby R.
Bobby R.

I absolutely love the golf tags with Golf Pad, but hate how I look on the Tee box, sticking my club out perpindicular from my body, rubbing the butt of my club on my pocket, trying to find the NFC sweet spot.


I understand the difficulties with NFC as a technology in general, but I was wondering if anyone found a good way to get the tags to scan without looking so silly, or them being so fussy?


The worst is on the tee box when everyone is standing around watching.  I've considered taking my driver golf tag off, and keeping it in the pocket opposite my phone so I can pull it out and tap it, instead of doing the club rub, golf tag dance.

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Vidar Nygaard posted over 8 years ago

When at tee I scan the club when I'm waiting for the other players to tee off. I don't have to do that on the tee? The same for the next shots. If I'm first I hit the ball and while waiting for the others to hit their balls I scan my club holding the phone to the club.

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Rob Litten posted over 8 years ago

Same here, I felt like I was constantly doing a golf club thigh bump multiple times to get the app to register the club. I took off the cover ad well. Bigger issue was with my galaxy s6 edge is that the screen never unlocked easily.. When I finished a hole I tried to look at the screen easily to write down my score and it took numerous button smashing to unlock it. My phones completely stock BTW for Verizon. I sponsored the Kickstarter cause of how much I used the app. The golf pads was more for my knowledge. Also we need a better way to tag a drop. I hit a hazard and had to double register a club, maybe offer a better way to flag a drop. Idea is to not take the phone out of the pocket. As it takes forever to unlock the screen.

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jeff hunter posted over 8 years ago

I am experiencing the same issue. It usually takes 2 or 3 attempts to get it to recognize the club. It's a bit of a distraction when I am trying to set up for my shot. I'd appreciate any tips as well.

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Paul Fiddler posted over 8 years ago

I agree with Peter.  Make it part of your pre-shot routine and have a clear gap between messing with your toys and striking the ball.  Mine:

  1. Stand over the ball, take out my phone and check distance.
  2. Get my club stand back over the ball tag the club, put the phone away
  3. Take 2 steps back, get my grip, aim point etc
  4. Step up to the ball and swing away...
You could also tag after your shot but I found I forgot and there is nothing more time wasting than going back to where you just played from and playing with your phone.


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Jpwozoo posted almost 8 years ago

First off, I can't believe how many of you care what you look like when your scanning your club. Are you playing in front of a large gallery? My friends have a lot more things to make fun of me with then scanning my club. You really think other golfers are playing any attention to you? Get over it. I've only used my tags 3 rounds and I think they're great. Phone in my pocket, I found the sweet spot on my phone and 1 scan, done. If you have to enter a code to unlock your phone, turn that feature off. These things are so easy to use I can't believe there are so many winers.

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edwin posted almost 3 years ago

I use a phone holster and what I noticed is that the metal and little magnets in the holster interfere with the NFC signal. Another thing was my putter grip. Because of the 'metal' bolt on top it had big troubles getting read by my phone.


My solution was to put a ferrite sticker on the entire back of the tag. It worked wonders so I ended up putting ferrite stickers on all my tags at the back.


Maybe it might be an idea for golfpad to look at NFC tags made for on metal surfaces. It realy boosts the performance on reading the tags.

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Walter Nerling posted over 7 years ago

The most important capability of the LINK reader is to bring TAG functionality to the iPhone. There missing that huge market segment without it. I think the secondary consideration is for ease of scanning for all users. I think if Apple allowed NFC reading in their phone, you wouldn't see the LINK being introduced at all.


I'm in the other camp. I going to enjoy leaving the phone in/on the cart and will get yardages from my cheapo smart watch. I'll grab the phone in the rare instance when I'm playing a new course and don't know yardages to hazards. I hate carrying my phone is the bottom line. I'd prefer the reader and a smart watch. I know you prefer your phone.


I think the goal of the design of the TAGS was to make them as low profile as possible. So less chance of breaking or dislodging them if struck against something. So I don't think they'd be as durable in a slanted format as you suggest.


As for the cost of the tags themselves, yes, it's way too much but you have to understand the app-for-phone market.


A normal marketplace should work like this.

  1. - ALL users pay a fee for the software (say $35); it ain't free;
  2. - some extra features and upgrades are a yearly fee (say $20); i.e. premium subscription
  3. - other goodies like TAGS are $15-20


But the app-for-phone market works like this:

  1. - YOU MUST GIVE THE APP AWAY FOR FREE; the cheap freeloaders out there won't download anything that hits you up for a fee right off the bat; you'll never get any traction with an app otherwise; the cheapskates out there won't even pay for premium features, and will kick and scream if they have to (and then they'll go download something else);
  2. - because of point #1, you have to recoup ALL of your costs (and your profit margin because nobody works for free) from the extras (like the overpriced TAGS), and to pay for future enhancements, and development every time there's a new iOS or Android flavour. So you have to realize the $99 covers the app (which you should have paid for), the freeloaders, and part of future development.

Now the interesting part is that smart watches are being developed WITH NFC readers. That would eliminate the need for LINK (and for having your phone in your pocket). That would be the ultimate solution in my books.

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Thomas posted over 8 years ago

Same issue for me.  Very distracting and finally gave up tracking the round after 4-5 holes b/c of it.  I agree on the tee box it could be ok, but out on the fairway tapping my club over and over again to my pocket.  I was slowing down the round and looking ridiculous.

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Cody Book posted over 8 years ago

When I've played with the app, my group usually likes to see yardage from the tee box. So I walk up to about where I'm going to tee up and look at the yardage on my phone, this is when I would mark the GPS location. I wasn't using tags at the time but I can imagine just holding my driver in the other hand when I walk up to get the distance and tap the back. I found it didn't cause any slow down of the round or anything.

 

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Todd Baker posted over 2 years ago

Edwin, I may give this a try.  Thanks for the idea.  I’ve been wondering why a couple tags are hit and miss when scanning.

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Walter Nerling posted over 7 years ago

Some people must be golfing with a tough crowd. I've even golfed as a single with a group, and others weren't even aware of what I was doing with the app and phone most of the time.


On the tee, I usually tag while everyone is still clamoring up to the tee box (and I or another player is not yet ready to tee off), and in the fairway, I'm tagging while others are making a practice swing, etc., so that's not an issue. For most first putts, I tag just as I reach my ball before I even mark it, so again it's no issue/no delay with playing partners. The only part I don't like is when I'm about to make my second putt that's less than a foot to the hole, and I have to tag before putting it away. Until that point, most people aren't aware of what I'm doing with my phone and clubs. I may try to get in the habit of marking from my watch (Mark Shot/As putt) instead, but still that's not perfect.

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Bruce DeLucenay posted over 8 years ago

I agree with Cody.  Taking out your phone, and tapping it on your club is the quickest and least stupid looking way to get it done quickly.

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Jrtonyday posted over 7 years ago

A simple solution is for GolfpadGPS, or perhaps one of their competitors in case anyone else is listening, to make tags that are slanted. Instead of making the TAGS slanted, GolfpadGPS makes the additional reader slanted to entice users to buy the reader.  A benefit of GolfpadGPS is that it's able to use a phone's built in NFC.  Making it awkward to the point of annoyance to scan a club with a phone removes that benefit.


With the recent redesign of the TAGS not including a slant option for those who don't want to buy or carry extra equipment on their person during a round is a disappointment.  Given that the TAGS sell for a hundred dollars with manufacturing costs probably less than 10% of that, and the fact that the app itself is not free, there is no excuse to not make the TAGS user friendly for us Android users.

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Bill Ogden posted almost 8 years ago

I don't care what I look like (to an extent) touching my club to my pocket, but after the first couple rounds playing with the Golf Tags and only having an occasional problem of finding the sweet spot, now, on my last round (on a new course)  I had A LOT of problems getting the tag to register, even with the phone out of my pocket.  I'd kept getting these high pitched beeps before finally getting the confirmation sound.  Anyone know what's up with that? Are there settings or environmental factors in play?  I'll definitely stop using the tracking feature if I have to try moving the club over the phone again and again to get it to register... THAT looks ridiculous.  

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Douglas Kucmerowski posted about 2 years ago

Hate to answer such an old Golf Pad Tag Topic, but wanted to share a solution that works well and from an "ease of use" perspective this is the one that ends lots of the fumbling that's done trying to scan tags and play a round of golf. I also didn't want to have this GPS app (and it's accessories) slow up my game or have friends complaining that I spend too much time on my phone, and not enough actually golfing. First thing... Invest in a Caddie Buddy Phone Holder. And not just anyone... get the one in the link below https://caddiebuddy.com/push-cart-phone-gps-mount/ This phone mount allows the lower half of most phones to be assessable, on the back side, where the phone antenna is located for NFC communication. That's the near-field that Golfpad Tags use with phones. The phone holder comes with a Sun Mountain Pull; Cart screw mount, as well as a separate twist-type clamp, that can be mounted on any pull cart handle or riding golf cart windsheid frame. Mount that holder & phone, in a location, in your cart, that allows you to put the face of the phone at the back, middle of the phone, you should see the Tag Register regardless if you have the app open. Once you start playing, and placing your clubs under the phone in the cradle, you will start to see that you find the "sweet spot" much quicker with the phone stationary. The mounting clamp on this design allowed me to get a 46" Driver under the Phone/Holder with the grip and Tag flat. It raises the Phone App up high enough so you basically pull the club out, hold in under your cart handle, and it shows the club registered. After using it for about 10-12 shots I was hitting the antenna within seconds of removing the head cover off the club. I found that taking the phone in and out of a pocket, trying to scan by moving club & phone, just doesn't work well. And the Tag really needs to be FLAT against the NFC antenna location. A fixed location for your golf data display is always better, less chance to close the app moving the phone in and out of pockets So what about the putter you ask? Do not use a Tag on that, much easier to just register the number of putts on the app using the PUTT button... Press the putt button, press next hole, and move on. Stop trying to spot location when the key information is how far away is your first putt. That putt distance value could be something that you enter manually, after you do a quick paceoff of. Again, don't slow down play by trying to capture putt data to the "nearest inch" when the real data that helps the score is how close was the approach and did you get down in two. Cindy can work with development to have a box pop up when PUTT button is used, asking for distance... and that could be a selectable option in the setup section for using Tags. Until the integration between the GPS driven GolfPad App and a connected watch allows the use of both Tag Register AND the watch GPS, the idea of spotting the cup on a green, and using a Putter Tag are "difficult" at best. The idea of this product is to speed up play...not slow it down. You get perfect shot information, at the ball location, with recommended clubs in the Premium Version. If the putter tag still needs work to make it better, enter only that part manually, instead of all these work-arounds that really need better watch connectivity. Don't use a pull cart or ride? The clamp will allow you to mount on your umbrella handle if your carry. Or do a little modification and find the spot to mount on your bag with a built in stand. It's worth it to you to end the GoldPad Tag Pocket Pool game being played. Think about it...

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Armand posted over 6 years ago

I thought the bunker shots would be automatically selected, similar to the fairway results of a drive.  This doesn't seem to happen, so I'm always going in after the round and editting the shots to "fix" those things.  It does help tremendously that I can recall all of my shots in a round even up to a week later (I only play once a week or so), so I know which shots were from the sand or from the fringe or first cut.

I only have the tags and not the Link, so I have no idea how the Link works.  I'll have to speak to a friend who uses a Pebble watch with his tags and see if that is simple to do "on the fly".

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Ralf Taus

Ralf Taus posted almost 8 years ago

I used the app for 1,5 years without tags. I had no routine in tagging the shot. Sometimes I took my phnoe out of the pocket before the shot sometimes after. Every time I had to unlok the screen, press for shot, press for club selection, select the club und press for return. That needed time.
Now I played 1 round with the tags, unchartet. Playing unchartet you dont have the "black screen". So I had to take out my phone again.
It loocked like
taking phone out of the pocket
pressing home button (unlook the screen)
tagging club
pressing on/off
putting phone in pocket
All this I did after the shot in less than 4 seconds, no influence in the pro-shot-routine,
Most of my flight didn´t recognize what I did.
The first 2 holes I had to think of doing this, later I did it automatically.

I can imagine, that playing a mapped course I would look at the screen, checking distance, choose my club, tagging it and than starting the pre-shot-routine. If distance does no matter (green far away) I would like my after-shot-routine.

I will see.

 

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Les Blancs posted about 7 years ago

I found the noise the app makes when the club is put to the phone in my pocket was a bit of an embarrassment when with others... until I found the option to turn it off or down. I bought myself a cheap pebble watch and can now leave my phone in my pocket and use my watch to work out distances and see numbers of shots taken. I can also add shots if needed. I love this app and am now building up an accurate record of my improvement over time.

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Ralf Taus

Ralf Taus posted over 7 years ago

I played some rounds on charted courses now and I´m happy to have the tags.
After I did the shot I put my phone out of my pocket, hold it over the tag (club vertical) and put the phone back. That need no time and I get a good feedback from the vibration, that my shot was tagged.
This routine became so natural that I sometime had to watch at my phone to check if I did the tagging. Every time all right. I don´t have to think about it.
The pitty is, that 2 of the tags seem to be broken. I can´t tag them, even with other NFC-apps the can´t be read. They are not damaged, as I can see. Let´s see hao long the other last.

 

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Johnny Nonny posted over 3 years ago

Get a phone clip. It does wonders. 

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Douglas Smith posted almost 8 years ago

I have been using Tags for awhile now and find that they can be a little touchy from time to time tagging my clubs. Granted I do have an Otter box case on my phone, I too simply take my phone out of my pocket and tap it a few times on the end of my club which is vertical club head down. I can usually get the software to recognize my club with very little effort even with my case on. I have tried tagging without the case and it is much easier, but I just prefer the added protection of the case on my phone so I elect to keep it on since I have been able to complete my round with 90% effectiveness of tagging. When I just can't get the sweet spot on my phone and need to quickly move along I just use my smart watch and tag my club and just go in and identify the club selection with the phone later. I will definitely get the Link when it is made available, just because tagging will be soooooo much easier and I will be able to keep my phone on the cart and just use my smart watch for distances, etc.

 

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jeff hunter posted over 8 years ago

Despite the work arounds in this post, I am disappointed with the gap in the actual user experience versus what is depicted in the marketing material... kind of like what a Big Mac looks like on TV versus what it actually looks like at a MacDonald's. Even with my cell phone out of pocket, it can take a few attempts to log a shot. Consequently, I've disabled my tags and will continue to use the app without them. I guess that is the risk you take with Kick Starter projects.

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Bobby R. posted over 8 years ago

I haven't given up but I don't agree with paul and peter.  If I wanted to take my phone out I would have never even got the tags.  I also use a smart watch to link up to the app, so thats another variable that makes this more frustrating.  I don't mind having data on my wrist or even tapping a club to my pants - but needing to pull out my phone is unacceptable.


I've got a good pre-shot routine down that doesnt detract from the game itself, and scans accurately, but it does still look ridiculous.

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Phil Michel posted almost 4 years ago

My Tags are supposed to arrive soon so I have no experience with tagging and my iPhone. The Game Golf "Classic" device that I have used for years was easy to work with. I've seen mention of people keeping the phone "nearby", or taking it out to tag. Has anyone tried putting their phone in a holster or belt clip and tagging their shots?

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